Wednesday, December 01, 2004

Uniforms & Weapons

I recall a movie. Its events are about a battle between Germany and France during the reign of Bismarck and Napoleon III (the Franco-Prussian war,1870-71).

A group of about ten French soldiers receive an order to retreat from the front line. After walking for a long time equipped with heavy military stuff, they are exhausted and out of breath. They come across a flock of ducks which imitate the soldiers in a funny way. The soldiers hunt a duck and cook it. After an uproarious meal, one of the soldiers goes to bring water for his companions from a nearby lake.
He decides to take off his uniform to swim. Once he starts swimming, an unexpected surprise is waiting for him. There is a German soldier swimming in the lake. Each of them hurries, out of water, to his rifle, aiming at other, panting and showing fierce hatred. Both of them are naked. After a little while of silence and awaiting, they burst in laughter.

They put down their rifles and sit together chatting, talking about their agonies, anguish, hopes, their sweetheart’s names and families…etc.
Abruptly, the two armies start again exchanging artillery shelling. Both of them hasten to his uniform, helmet, rifle and other stuff, and hurry back to their units. And as a funny coincidence, each one of them discovers that he took the uniform and the helmet of the other. Then, a series of humorous events take place by accusing them to be spies for the other army.
The movie tries to deliver a message which says:


A similar message is said by 2Slick on his blog. It says:

“…a question that I am constantly asked by fellow Americans- even today. "Do they want us over there?" My answer is always, "Of course not! Not with weapons and body armor on!" And we don't want to be there either- not under the present circumstances. Most Iraqis are quick to point out that they are glad Saddam is gone, they appreciate what we've done, and although they wish for the occupation to end soonest- they would love for us all to come back as tourists- and that they'd be honored to welcome us as guests in their homes.
They want us carrying cameras and souvenirs- not guns and hand cuffs.They want to see us wearing khakis and Izods- not DCU's and body armor.Who can blame them for this? I join them in hoping that it happens sooner than later.”
Well, 2Slick hit the nail on the head. He posted this after a comment I made on an older post (What's Next For Fallujah?), which I had been informed about by Papa Ray (thanks to Papa).

I’ve been trying to be more acquainted with American people through the internet which I started using it since few months before the recent war of 2003. I was, and still, wondering why we deal with the Americans, or the western in general, as enemies. So I started to gain pen pals from all over the world using the internet. For my amazement, I discovered that these people, especially the Americans, are wonderful, helpful and friendly. One should distinguish between the foreign policy of the administration of a certain country and its people.
Let’s look forward to a day in the near future. A day on which the Iraqi people receive guests from all over the glob saying (Ahlan Wa Sahlan) which means welcome.And till that day comes allow me to be your host in this humble blog saying to all visitors (Ahlan Wa Sahlan), your visits and comments please me.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonderful it will be a pleasure getting to know you and your countrymen.

11:34 PM  
Blogger Brian H said...

OK, I-A;
This is going to be a rather harsh comment, but I think you and the people to whom you're talking need to see it.

Have you ever heard the Western English expression, "Wanting to have your cake and eat it, too"? It refers to a kind of foolish, childish greed which expects or hopes to be able to eat the cake, but still have the cake there afterwards. Impossible.
When the child's mind grows up, this is one of the major things it must learn, or it will never mature. There is a cost to everything: if you eat something, it's gone.

Iraqis wanted Saddam gone, but don't want the armies that got rid of him. They want security from terrorists and power-mad thugs, but don't want the armies trying to achieve that. Impossible.

They wish, perhaps, like many Western leftists that the Iraqi resistance could have achieved Saddam's overthrow themselves. But the tight tribal circles around him made sure their efforts were: Impossible. [How many thousands and their relatives died for trying or even discussing it?]

They want Iraqi forces and police to keep order, while still holding on to tribal loyalties. But those loyalties mean they won't act against their own clansmen or families and are easily threatened by warnings of harm to relatives. Impossible.

And so on. The surrounding despotisms and internal want-to-be tyrants are determined to make the new state fail, and are exploiting the primitive tribal nature of Iraqi society to achieve this. So that's the cake you can't have and eat at the same time. Either you give priority to the country and its security, or you continue to say, "My brother and I against my cousin, my cousin and I against the government, my government and I against the terrorists", or you put the country and your elected (soon) government first.

You can't be both tribal and secure. Impossible.

1:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My god I agree with Brian so much it's not funny.

I am getting increasingly annoyed by Iraqis (this doesn't mean you IBN) who complain about the American troops being in their country yet do nothing about the situation.

If you want the occupation to end join the Iraqi military and fight the terrorists. That will be the fastest and most constructive way to get Americans in your country as tourists and not occupiers.

It's in EVERYONES best interests, I might add that American foriegn policy in the Middle East is the one thing that keeps the entire region away from nuclear destruction.

If America were to cease its foriegn policy, Israel would be attacked by either convential or nuclear forces sooner or later and would respond in kind, dragging the powers of the world into a conflict that would result in the death of millions of Arabs and Jews.

You may hate American foriegn policy, you may feel humiliated that the Americans saved you and you didn't save yourselves, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.

2:57 AM  
Blogger Lisa, New York said...

Hi, I-A,

I hope you don't get discouraged by some of the comments. I understand Brian's point. But I understand your point, also. I don't think you and Brian disagree. We all look forward to the day when Americans and Iraqis can interact as friends, without any need for armed soldiers. Unfortunately, that day isn't here yet and the armed soldiers are still necessary.

But it's true we are all just human beings. I hope the American soldiers realize that Iraqis are not some alien beings but are human with the same hopes and dreams as Americans. And I hope Iraqis realize that the American soldiers they see on the streets are just normal people with a home and friends and family who love them. Hopefully both Iraqis and Americans can learn to deal with this uncomfortable, but necessary, interim period that no one really enjoys. The Iraqis don't enjoy seeing armed foreign soldiers on their streets and the soldiers don't enjoy spending a year away from their home, being shot at every day.

I think we can all agree that we look forward to the day when Iraq is a stable democracy and a friend of the United States.

4:23 AM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

Ibn, Greetings to you and yours.

First, let me leave a link that is interesting, yet a little scary. The start of impersonal robot wars?

The story about the two soldiers is priceless and is true to the extent that is the wish of 90 percent of everyone (I may be off a percent here or there).

The remaining percent want things to be done their way and for everyone to believe their way. Of course this is impossible. Its impossible because people just don't want to be told what to do or to believe or even how to do something. Thats human nature.

So they resort to war.

Or, some people want what the others have. They can't get it by peaceful means so they go to war.

The number one reason though wars have been fought is because of religion. Wars between town,citys,regions and countries that differed on social behavior and beliefs. Beliefs that were determined by their religions.

The "winners" (if there is such a thing in war) were the ones that were the most determined and resourceful. It was not always the biggest armies or the largest countries.

How does this tie in with these wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I believe in this way.

America has the most resources (or access to) of any country in the world.

Americans have proven themselves in their very short history of being the most determined, resourceful people in the world (in my opinion and of many people that are not Americans).

Like I said in a previous post, America will prevail if backed into a corner (or forced to) in order to protect its country and people will destroy its enemies totally.

Life is not cheap, but to put it bluntly, America has been been fighting these wars on the cheap. That is to say they have not committed to war totally (to the extreme). Why? one reason is because the people and the administration of the U.S. want to kill and imprision as few innocents as possible. Also, because as terrible as 9/11 was, no other attacks have happened in the United States. The majority of the population of the U. S. is not mad or afraid,yet. In fact, reguardless of what you see on the Mass Media, most Americans give little thought to homeland security and even less to the wars on the other side of the world.

But, once that changes, and most Americans get scared and/or angry, The world will change almost overnight to a nightmare, a nightmare beyond belief to millions.

Americans make the world's greatest tourists. But they can also be the greatest ememy anyone could ever have, if they are forced to be.

Texans are known even within the United States as independent,hard headed and determined people from the greatest State in the United States. The don't mess with Texas is more than just a slogan its a fact and we prove it everyday in many ways. There are many other Great States and we are all bound by our beliefs and our commitment to protect each other and our county. Only God comes before our country. People around the world need to understand that.

The God we cherish and believe in, believes in freedom of religion, freedom from want and from fear. We are not instructed to destroy those not of our religion or to enslave them.

Iraq can become once more the Greatest Nation in the World to its people. But they have to put their country ahead of thier religion,tribe and region. They have to respect each other and not use force in governing or in ruling people's lives.

The right to life,liberty,happiness and freedom from fear is a God given right.

America wants these things for people that can not get it for themselves. It wants to help. It does not want to conquer or to take away anything from anyone.

We do want things and conditions that are in our self interest. We will buy them, not steal them. We will protect our Nation's self interests when ever or where ever we must.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas

5:45 AM  
Blogger mtnyogi said...

Two questions:

1. If the terrorists/insurgents "took off their uniforms and dismissed their weapons", would "love, understanding and friendship dominate the relations between people"?

2. If the ING/IP/MNF "took off their uniforms and dismissed their weapons", would "love, understanding and friendship dominate the relations between people"?

5:49 AM  
Blogger rick,esq. said...

From what I have heard most of our troops feel warmly towards most Iraqi people. They have a high regard for them. However, mixed in there are large elements of persons who perpetrate suicide bombings or road side bombings or gun attacks on both our troops and on Iraqi police and officials and on persons from other countries who are trying to help with assistance to Iraq. Our troops I'm sure have grown more skiddish because of an inability to know, in some cases, whether they are dealing with good Iraqis, so to speak, or persons who threaten great danger, mayhem or death. I have so much respect for our US soldiers, and pride.

I also have so much respect for your blog . . . you understand that there are so many of us Americans who are wishing Iraq well. It is sincere. I'm sure many in our foreign policy establishment view things geopolitically and perhaps cynically, but it is my honest belief that President Bush is one of those idealistic persons who actually yearns for a free secure peaceful Iraq because Iraq deserves that blessing.

One thing I wonder is if the insurgents and terrorists (I consider them two different groups) might ever feel some pressure from Iraqis themselves. The insurgents/terrorists keep destroying and murdering . . . and for what? They claim it is in the name of ousting the US, but, we know they want power, or worship "righteous" violence, because they could oust America from Iraq quickest by STOPPING the destruction and murder.

My point is the insurgents/terrorists seem to have way too much cover in Iraq. They do blend in, which means they're being tolerated, supported. I suspect this is partly out of fear: those who attack US troops and Iraqi police are much more terrifying in their tactics and ruthlessness than are US troops and Iraqi police. Nevertheless, I think non-insurgent/terrorist Iraqis should do more to slow down, or better yet, annihilate the terrorists/insurgents.

So, I hope for the best, and believe in that possibility. Iraq is the cradle of all civilization, and its success in a new era will also be historically important for the whole world

6:29 AM  
Blogger WC said...

Howdy. Great post, I-A. Funny story about the naked soldiers, but really a little naive. Wars are not sustained by the individuals fighting but by the will of the powers that decide miltiary force will be used (though the individual soldiers can be very significant in the determination of who wins and who loses). In this case (America in Iraq), a majority of the American people are deciding to back continued use of force. Force is just EXTREME political pressure. Also in this case, I believe it has a chance to influence the future for good ... I am just not yet comfortable that we have taken the best path to a bright future just yet. May God have mercy on us all.

I would definitely love to visit your country (when it is peaceful). Though, I often feel guilty that so many young American soldiers are sacrificing on my behalf, fighting for what they believe in (after all what can an old fat guy really do in a war?)

Have you ever heard of a little film that came out about twenty years ago (English only I bet) called "Red Dawn"?? It is about the hypothetical Soviet/Cuban invasion and occupation of America. It chronicles the resulting American resistance and the feelings of the occupiers. It's not that good of a film, but still the plot is interesting.

Papa Ray, is that West, Texas (home of the Czech bakery?) or west Texas (as in Marfa? -- where I was born)

6:49 AM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

Greetings again, Ibn

I forgot one other link that gives a new perspective to WHY the war in Iraq (other than everybody thought that WMD were being manufactured faster than cats having kittens)and Ol' Saddam was a evil Bastard.

I can't say if these ideas have any merit but I might see if I can get my library to get me a copy of the book that is referenced.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas (as in west of Abiline, east of El Paso)

7:30 AM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

This is so frustrating for me. I see much negativism in some Iraqi blogs (not yours). I read outright propaganda (ie:Zawahiri is just made up by the US - he doesn't really exist, Americans are there for oil etc...) that seems to be believed by many. It's frustrating for me. It seems that Iraqis are frustrated too even if they don't buy into the propaganda bullshit. Of COURSE this is so difficult right now - it's horrible for everyone who is there. How can it be any other way? The problems that are being faced may seem to be insurmountable, but they are not and I believe that the American psyche is such that there IS no problem that is insurmountable. Listen - I would love for peace to reign and everyone to be happy and secure - it isn't that way. Not at all. It's ugly - lots of ugly out there. 'Sometimes you just have to draw a line in the sand and when the gunsmoke and dust settles justice is served.' It's ugly. It has to be done. Criminy - you think we like doing such an ugly frigging job??! Hell no - we want our boys and girls home enjoying peaceful happy times with everyone running around naked and laughing at each other. It's not about revenge - this is a reckoning. Please seize the opportunity that's presenting itself in the middle of shit and look to the future.

8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Son of Two Rivers,
I wonder what the title of that movie is? I'm curious to see it.

On the comments that the story of the movie is a little naive- sure, it is, but I have heard and/or read some stories of actual combat soldiers having smaller-scale versions of that experience in WWI and WWII- a moment where they are not two uniforms and proxies of two different countries but two guys, about the same age, with families, nieces and nephews, sweethearts back home, and so on. (I don't think they are all apocryphal or urban legends, but haven't really researched it yet.)

And, thanks for your reply about how people are feeling about the elections- I am so glad that there is interest and enthusiasm among people you know. Since western media outlets don't have much contact with regular Iraqis we don't get much information about public opinion. The car bombs and suicide bombs become the only gauge of public sentiment about which we hear.

Finally, I agree with you, ibn_Alrafidain, that it just is all too easy for our common humanity to get obscured by religious, political, and cultural differences and destroyed in history is littered with variations on the same story. Despite that sad fact, I'm in a Christmas-y mood- so let me post an early and probably naive :) wish for peace on earth and goodwill toward humankind.

9:01 AM  
Blogger Louise said...

Yes. Yes. Yes. To all of the above. As I was reading your posting, IBN Alrafidain, I was also listening to the morning news. George Bush has just finished a quick trip to Canada and he and our Prime Minister were holding a press conference. They were both promising to work to clean up and reform the United Nations. YAHOOOOOOO!!!

And I most emphatically agree with your assessment of the Internet and what it has and will do to bring together people from all over the world. We'll all be naked. LOL!

3:13 PM  
Blogger Louise said...

Oh, and Ibn Alrafidain, a while back you asked me if I could put your URL on the Iraqi Bloggers Roundup blog. Unfortunately, I am a guest contributer to that site and I can't get in to the area where I can do that. The site is owned by Torchbearer, and he seems to have disappeared. The other guest, littlewhy, and I have been discussion his disappearance. We have no idea where he is or why he hasn't contributed anything to the website for a very long time. All either of us has is his pseudonym and his email address, and despite repeated messages sent to him, he has not been heard from for over a month.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

Ibn, Greetings (once again).

I hope I am not posting too much. But I find these things that I just have to share. I share on other blogs also, but I think you are becoming my favorite Iraq blog (Oh, think)!!

This is an example of how fear and confusion effects people and how just how travel between places you are and places you must get to is so important as to risk your life.

"Securing the Death Road"

This real life experience reminds me of the trips that our early frontier people had to make across the southwest parts of the U.S. in the period of the "Old West" 1840 to 1880s. It was an exciting and dangerous period and the rule of the "Highway Robbers and other dangers such as the "Blood thirsty Wild Indians" made travel very dangerous.

The above is of course trivial in comparison to the situation in your country right now.

My only advice is to protect yourself and your family and to be strong and as brave as possible. If I were in your position I don't know how I would behave or act.

But I do hope it would be with honor and with determination that no outlaws or thugs would harm me or my family or stop us from having a good life.

But that is just an Ol' Texan talking.

This is my Post

Papa Ray
West Texas

8:38 PM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

"Heavy Haulers" for the New Iraq Troops..

In the Short Run, I don't think that this new equipment will make a large difference. But, as far as the attitude and morale of the "New Iraqi Military" I think it will make a lot of difference.

Be sure an scroll down to the article about "Anti-Texan"
I can testify that even if different parts of Texas are different (bearing in mind that Texas is about the same size as Iraq), us Texans get along pretty good and I believe it makes us a better state in the long run.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas

9:43 PM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

Ibn, I have a confession to make..I can't remember what I am doing. Here is the link I meant to leave.

I need to take a nap, us Ol' folk need our rest.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas

10:07 PM  
Blogger Discovery said...

IBN, I really appreciate your post and all the Iraqi posts I read. Your perspective is necessary. On this one, I have to agree with the common thread here. Life isn't that simple.

The NAZI annihilation of the Jews was real. The terrorists beheading of civilians is real. A beer and a good laugh around a campfire wouldn't have stopped it. They are the causes of war. Because, when they quit or are killed, the war is over. That is also where you differentiate Nazi from Germans and the terrorists from Iraqis. The unfortunate thing is, the civilians take the toll.

The major difference between your Germany and French foot solider and the terrorists is choice. In WWII, the common foot soldiers were citizens forced to fight. Germany solders didn't get the opportunity not to fight. Neither did the French, when they were invaded. The terrorists are not being forced to fight. They have chosen to kill; and chosen to kill innocent civilians.

When the terrorists stop, Iraq's war is over. If the US stops, Iraq's war doesn't end. A naked laugh at the lake has no bearing here.

10:11 PM  
Blogger Benjamin said...

I share your beliefs Ibn al-Rafidain. I want nothing more than to be able to visit my buddy Ali in the UAE when he goes back. And I'd love to see the ancient and magnificent city of Baghdad as a tourist, as well.

Instead, I imagine I will see such sights as a member of the military. I am not quite done with college, but I have been thinking hard about joining our military. I do not want to join because of wars or fighting. I simply believe in the vision of a democratic world that President Bush is pursuing. And so, I will probably enter the military in pursuit of that vision.

I would like nothing more than to be able to enter the diplomatic corps of our country in a time of peace. Instead, I will probably pursue a military career in the hopes that my future children or those of my two sisters and brother can pursue such goals.

We live in tough times, but we can achieve 'good' for the world. I bear no ill will towards your country's trepidation at American troops within your borders. I think this is because I have faith that you, and most of your countrymen, believe in the truth of Democracy. Democratic societies do not go to war with each other. They never have, and I believe they never will. Sometimes they disagree, but never violently.

I wish more people could look forward to a better future, rather than complain about minor issues. Your people have every right to wonder about American intentions, but I have faith in the decision making ability of your people. I think they want to make decisions that are rightfully theirs, as I think you also believe. And I hope you believe that America only wants what's best for other people in the world, with as limited a cost as possible.

Here's to the friends of a Democratic and Peaceful world.

3:34 AM  
Blogger WC said...

"Securing the Death Road"

I agree that this is a spell-binding account, well worth the read.

4:02 AM  
Blogger Papa Ray said...

200 pledge willingness to carry out suicide attacks against Americans, Israelis

"I joined the unit to fulfill my religious task for Palestine," said a volunteer who gave only his age - 23.

Ibn, as I said, religion is the single most involved factor of war. This article makes me sick to my stomach, such a waste of young minds and lives. To think of all the lives they will take and people they will maim is a tragedy beyond words to describe.

This is my post

Papa Ray
West Texas

7:49 AM  
Blogger Mike H. said...

Benjamin, you do a good thing. Those who would sit around and complain about helping because they might become involved, have no vested interest in their country. You, on the other hand, can walk in the knowledge that you are a positive force in your country. Former Marine.

11:18 AM  
Blogger 2Slick said...

Hello Ibn-

I quoted this post (which contains a quote from one of my posts) in my most recent post. What is that called? "Cross-Blogging"? I understand the frustration that people like Brian feel when they make the "you can't have your cake and eat it too" arguments. He's basically saying "don't complain about the occupation- help the Americans end the occupation by joining the fight against the terrorists." I would suggest that many Iraqis are doing just that.

People need to understand that the many Iraqis who join the Security Force or ING (bless them) are only part of the effort against the terrorists. There are many other Iraqis who are taking a stand against the terrorists in other ways. Politicians who run for office are essentially putting thier lives on the line in an effort to promote democracy in Iraq. Businessmen and contractors who participate in reconstruction efforts (I worked with many of them) are risking thier lives by doing business with the Coalition, but they help bring stability (in the form of improved infrastructure and economic progress) to Iraq. The interpretors (who I consider to be the bravest unsung heroes of the battlefield) come out with us every day, exposing themselves to anyone who can see us, and return home to their families (unarmed) and pray that their houses aren't bombed or shot at. There are TONS of these interpretors out there helping us every day, and I credit my interpretor with saving my life on more than one occasion. The list goes on and on.

The Iraqis ARE rising up to claim their country, and they WILL prevail. I have seen their courage and determination. Those who doubt the "silent majority's" determination should come to Iraq and see for themselves. The news publicizes insurgents and the vocal minority who support them. Don't be fooled, America...

12:45 PM  
Blogger Louise said...

Thank you 2slick. That's good to hear. Of course, the media doesn't cover that sort of stuff. They can't see it from their vantage point hiding under the bed.

2:37 PM  
Blogger MonicaR said...

Thank you 2slick - and Ibn al Rafidain. The news you bring us gives me hope. I hear too much negative in the news and even on Iraqi blogs and it is disheartening. I SO appreciate what you all are saying. It gives me so much hope.

Also - I meant Zarqawi NOT zawahiri - sorry, LOL! I'm so not a morning person.

5:46 PM  
Blogger Ibn_Alrafidain said...

Ladies and Gentlemen:

First of all, I want to say (Ahlan Wa Sahlan) to all the visitors, especially who make comments. I can learn many new perspectives from you.


Very good questions, which I’ll be pleased if I read the visitors opinions about them.
As for the movie, the two soldiers seem to be used in a symbolic way. Thanks a lot.


Well, I hope that you answered some of the queries made on this post by my guests.

Thanks to the whole readers and (Ahlan Wa Sahlan).

12:05 AM  
Blogger Pat in NC said...

Dear Ibn, We are all under our outer garments the same. We love, we laugh, we sorrow and we bleed. I pray someday all of the world will recognize our common humanity and the teaching of hate to innocent children will cease. I appreciate your blog very much. Keep posting. I will add a link to you on my blog along with other Iraqi bloggers.

3:27 AM  
Blogger jedati said...

Dear Ibn,
I appreciate your blog and read it regularly, I hope you will continue (:
I don't have to sign in as anonymous anymore!

12:32 PM  
Blogger 2Hotel9 said...

Son of the two rivers, Salaam, welcome to the world beyond your borders. I have, in the past, known others from your land, and growing up I knew men, uncles and cousins, who worked and lived in Iraq. Let not your heart be darkened in this hour before the dawn. Stand against the evil men who have stolen Islam and befouled the very words of God!! The time has come for all the followers of Islam to cast off the chains of satan, the only barrier to the hearts of true beleivers. Those who use childern and women as sheilds, while doing the work of satan, are the true enemies of God, and all men, no matter their nation, race, or tribe! I am no diplomat, nor a statesman. I have been a solider, now I am only a father, a man who builds with my hands. I hunt and fish, I spend many hours on the internet, reading news and commentary from all over the world. As a young man I served in the Army, I saw the depths to which our fellow men sink in their dealings with those who are weaker than they are. God lays the task of standing against such evil upon us when we least expect or want it. Set your feet upon the path of God, he will be your sword and your shield. Those who have cast shame upon your nation will be destroyed, your people will rise and be great among the ranks of men and blessed of God. The dawn is nigh, the glory of God shall rise as the sun upon the horizon! Salaam, Brother.

6:26 AM  
Blogger Patty-Jo said...


Well said.

8:26 AM  
Blogger TAG said...

I was in Dhahran during/after Gulf War I. I saw the pictures of your countrymen who had the misfortune of encountering our military. You are wise & correct in deducing that the people of a country are separate from the foreign policy.
I and most of my countrymen wish you and IRAQ no ill will. We hope that elections brings you freedom and democracy (the ability to have the people elect their leaders to carry out the will of the majority of people while respecting the rights of the minority).
We know whatever you choose your form of government will not be like ours ( as in Afghanistan) and we are okay with that. We hope there is peace & an end to the senseless bloodshed now taking place. We hope you have the will to deal with the murderers & criminals who don't want peace, only tyranny.
Rest assured as long as George Bush is president we will support you as much as you allow us and then we will leave, only to return as TOURISTS. Civilization was first nourished between the Tigris & Euphrates rivers and there is much history & archaeology/museums in your country.
Good Luck Tom from TEXAS

1:59 AM  
Blogger SharplyShiloh said...

The Coalition is not at war with Iraq. It is at war with a deadly virus that invaded the body of the Iraqi people, and was capable of spreading its infection beyond that body.

This distinction must be made plain, and loudly every day. The MSM consistently mischaracterize the conflict; because words are their business this implies one of two attitudes - either the MSM means to mischaracterize and thus spin world view on these matters or, the MSM is too stupid to be allowed near a microphone and teleprompter if they can't get such a simple fact correct.

There's no third answer. Either they're "in on it" or they're compleetely uneductaed about their own craft.

We yearn for the Iraqi people to be freed of this virus, friend. So much so that our best and brightest are laying their lives on the line to see to it that you get the chance. Our best defense is your freedom.

Sharps - Utah/Colo/Wyo

8:57 PM  
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